Sunday, December 7, 2008

Christian Minister Dan Barker Became Atheist Due To Reading Secular Books

Choose your reading material carefully. Look what happened to the atheist, secular humanist Freedom From Religion Foundation's co-president Dan Barker.

"He received a degree in Religion from Azusa Pacific University and was ordained to the ministry by the Standard Community Church, California, in 1975." 1

"Dan maintained a touring musical ministry for 17 years, including eight years of full-time, cross-country evangelism." 1

"Following five years of reading, Dan gradually outgrew his religious beliefs. "If I had limited myself to Christian authors, I'd still be a Christian today," Dan says. 'I just lost faith in faith.' He announced his atheism publicly in January, 1984." 1

"Dan was PR Director of the Freedom From Religion Foundation from 1987 to 2004. He was elected co-president of the Foundation with Annie Laurie Gaylor in 2004. He is a contributing editor of Freethought Today and is involved with the Foundation's state/church lawsuits." 1

1 Dan Barker
Co-president, Freedom From Religion Foundation
Minister Turned Atheist

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Saturday, December 6, 2008

Baz Luhrmann's Australia Has Magical Quality: I Rate This Movie 4 1/4 Stars!

I had the opportunity to see Baz Luhrmann's Australia a few days ago. The Aboriginal child actor Brandon Walters is so good that I wouldn't be surprised if he is nominated, and wins, an Academy Award. His portrayal of an Aboriginal outcast (half white and half Aboriginal) boy named Nullah in 1939 Australia moved me to tears.

Now please don't get me wrong. Hugh Jackman is terrific as the cattle driver named The Drover. Actually, Hugh Jackman is perfect in this role. I can't imagine anyone else, even Russell Crowe, who happens to be one of my favorite actors, superceding Hugh Jackman's performance. (Russell Crowe, I found out later, was the original pick for The Drover, but Hugh Jackman won this one, and I think it was a good decision). *See My Related Link below.

Nicole Kidman, who doesn't happen to be one of my favorite actresses, really won me over in this film. In fact, I believe I liked her better in Australia than in any other movie I have ever seen her in. Nicole Kidman's portrayal of Lady Sarah Ashley is especially interesting as she allowed herself to be seen on camera with hideous eyeglasses of that time period, but they somehow added to her portrayal of a strong-willed woman who despises racial intolerance.

Australia is a rare film coming out of today's movie industry, which seems to have an almost obsessive need to mass produce far too many unnecessary R-rated films. I highly recommend this PG-13 rated film. It could have easily been an R-rated film, but it is not, and I appreciate the effort of any filmmaker these days who possesses this kind of ethical clarity.

Australia is a film with merit and values where they count, depicting both racial bigotry on the one hand, and true compassion and love on the other. Australia is not only about racism and cattle. It also depicts two very different types of love stories: the romantic love between The Drover (Hugh Jackman) and Lady Sarah Ashley (Nicole Kidman), plus the deeply spiritual love between the young Aboriginal outcast Nullah and his mentor/teacher King George, Nullah's grandfather.

King George is an Aboriginal Shaman or mystic who often stands on one leg in Yogi-like fashion and sings mystical Aboriginal melodies, which he teaches to Nullah. These melodies have magical qualities, and are considered to have great power.

Indeed, the good results that occur due to King George's Aboriginal manipulations are nothing short of miraculous. There is one scene in which a melody is sung by Nullah to protect him from imminent death. (I'm not going to name the specifics, less that scene be ruined before you get a chance to see the movie.)

The deep connection between the boy Nullah and his grandfather King George has an almost hypnotic effect on the viewer. King George, frequently standing in elevated places, seems to be directing events in Nullah's life in order to protect Nullah from harm, just as the fiddler in Fiddler on the Roof, always standing on the rooftop fiddling, seems to be protecting the Jews of Anatevya.

There is definitely a magical quality to the movie Australia. I highly recommend director Baz Luhrmann's film. Australia is a long movie (about 2 3/4 hours), but I thought it moved at a good pace, and, besides, with all of the economic problems going on in the world today, I appreciated getting not only my money's worth, but also leaving the theater with a feeling that I had not wasted my valuable time watching this movie. I give Australia 4 1/4 stars out of a possible 5-star rating.

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Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Christopher Horner's "Red Hot Lies" Exposes Global Warming Mythology

I don't put much stock in the fact that Al Gore won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for his dedication to the false theory of global warming.
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In any case, Global Warming Prophet of Doom Al Gore has contributed immensely to his own global warming nightmares.
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The Norwegian Nobel Committee bestowed the Nobel Peace Prize honors jointly to Al Gore and the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change on October 12, 2007.

According to Christopher Horner, author of the book Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud, and Deception to Keep You Misinformed, the United Nations purposely changed pertinent facts known to scientists for thousands of years in order to enforce their liberal and untrue views on the unsuspecting public.

That's right! The United Nations manipulated previously known facts in order to back up global warming mythology. I personally heard Christopher Horner explain this during a recent interview on KRLA's Dennis Prager show.
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Christopher Horner, by the way, is no newcomer to this field. Christopher Horner is considered to be an expert on global warming by many of his scientific peers. In fact, he is a Senior Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) and counsels Cooler Heads Coalition. 1

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Freddie Mercury on Marriage: "To me, SHE was my common-law wife. To me, it was a marriage."

If Freddie Mercury of the rock band Queen were alive today, would he have voted Yes or No on Proposition 8, California's heavily controversial gay marriage amendment? I believe that Freddie Mercury would have cast a Yes vote, yes meaning, in the case of Proposition 8, that he would favor traditional marriage between a man and his wife, and not gay marriage.

Why? The love of Freddie Mercury's life was a woman named Mary Austin, in spite of his many sexual liasons with men. Freddie said that he considered Mary Austin to be his wife.*

Did Freddie Mercury write the song entitled "Love of My Life," for a man? No, the song "Love of My Life" was written for Mary Austin. **

Note: View You Tube slide show of Freddie Mercury and Mary Austin below.

"In the early 1970s Mercury had a long-term relationship with a girlfriend named Mary Austin (whom he had met through guitarist Brian May). He lived with Austin for many years. However, by the mid-1970s, the singer began an affair with a male record executive at Elektra Records; this ultimately resulted in the end of his relationship with Austin.[40] Mercury and Austin nevertheless remained close friends through the years, with Mercury often referring to her as his only true friend. In a 1985 interview, Mercury said of Austin, 'All my lovers asked me why they couldn't replace Mary [Austin], but it's simply impossible. The only friend I've got is Mary, and I don't want anybody else. *To me, she was my common-law wife. To me, it was a marriage. We believe in each other, that's enough for me.'"[41] **He also wrote several songs about Austin, the most notable of which is 'Love of My Life'. Mercury was also the godfather of Mary's eldest son, Richard.[33]" 1

In fact, Freddie loved Mary so much that he left most of his enormous wealth to Mary Austin.

"In his will Mercury left the vast majority of his wealth, including his home and recording royalties, to Mary Austin, and the remainder to his parents and sister. He further left £500,000 to his chef Joe Fanelli, £500,000 to his personal assistant Peter Freestone, £100,000 to his driver Terry Giddings, and £500,000 to Jim Hutton.[50] Mary Austin continues to live at Mercury's home, Garden Lodge, Kensington, with her family.[50] Hutton moved back to the Republic of Ireland permanently in 1995, where he still lives. He was involved in a 2000 biography of Mercury, Freddie Mercury, the Untold Story, and also gave an interview for The Times for what would have been Mercury's 60th [46]" 1


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Happy National Turkey and Cranberry Day To All!

Due to the Thanksgiving holiday, I might be off for the next few days in order to celebrate my own reasons to be thankful.


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Romney On Detroit: ""I am not open to a bailout, but I am open to a work-out."

Mitt Romney, former Governor of Massachusetts, a Mormon (Latter-Day Saint), and one of the top 2008 Republican presidential candidates, is currently "widely considered to be a 2012 presidential contender," according to a November 24 ABC News article. Romney also said what some considered to be shocking remarks about the bailout of the auto industry in Detroit, Michigan.

"Romney is strongly opposed to the auto industry's request for $25 billion in low-interest loans. He is calling for management shakeups inside the companies as they engage in extensive economic restructuring, and is recommending bankruptcy or similar legal arrangements for America's auto giants."

"'Just sending a check and hoping for the best is not the right choice,'" Romney told ABC Friday, in between campaign stops in Georgia, where he was campaigning for Sen. Saxby Chambliss' re-election.

"'Simply patting the sick patient on the back and saying don't worry, everything will be fine -- that is not the right course for the auto industry,'" Romney said.

"In January, he delivered a speech to the Detroit Economic Club that included this line: "'I am not open to a bailout, but I am open to a work-out.'"
'That's what I said then; that's what I'm saying now,'" Romney said Friday.

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Monday, November 24, 2008

Vote For A Turkey Today! National Thanksgiving Day Turkey Needs Name

I just finished voting for a very serious cause. I picked a name, out of 6 possible choices, for the lucky National Thanksgiving Turkey whose life will be pardoned by President George W. Bush during the Annual Turkey Ceremony.

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Annual Turkey Day: President Bush Will Pardon Another Fortunate Turkey In 2008

Turkeys have been officially pardoned from being killed and eaten on Annual Turkey Day for 61 years, dating back to 1947. However, turkeys have been receiving presidential pardons unofficially since the days of Abraham Lincoln.

"This year marks the 61st anniversary of the National Thanksgiving Turkey presentation. Though live Thanksgiving turkeys have been presented intermittently to presidents since the Lincoln administration, the current ceremony dates to 1947, when the first National Thanksgiving Turkey was presented to President Harry Truman."


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Mitt Romney and A PLEA FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY Thanksgiving Reprint

This is a special reprint for Thanksgiving. Since Mitt Romney is currently a possible presidential nominee for the 2012 presidential election, (*See My Recent Related Posts below), I thought the season of Thanksgiving would be a good time to remind viewers about the importance of religious tolerance.


Conservative Wordsmith Susan Baldwin writes: Mitt Romney, and all Mormons, should not be called cultists or any other derogatory words. Read this dialogue between Truth and Peace, written in 1644 by Roger Williams, Christian minister and founder of Rhode Island. Read what Roger Williams had to say about religious tolerance. Then look into your own minds, hearts and souls, and seek to understand why it is unethical, unchristian, and most definitely un-American, to mentally persecute Mitt Romney simply because he is a Mormon.

by Roger Wiliams 1
[Roger Williams (ca. 1603-83), religious leader and one of the founders of Rhode Island, was the son of a well-to-do London businessman. Educated at Cambridge (A.B., 1627) he became a clergyman and in 1630 sailed for Massachusetts. He refused a call to the church of Boston because it had not formally broken with the Church of England, but after two invitations he became the assistant pastor, later pastor, of the church at Salem. He questioned the right of the colonists to take the Indians' land from them merely on the legal basis of the royal charter and in other ways ran afoul of the oligarchy then ruling Massachusetts. In 1635 he was found guilty of spreading "new authority of magistrates" and was ordered to be banished from the colony. He lived briefly with friendly Indians and then, in 1636, founded Providence in what was to be the colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. His religious views led him to become briefly a Baptist, later a Seeker. In 1644, while he was in England getting a charter for his colony from Parliament, he wrote the work from which this dialogue is taken. During much of his later life he was engaged in polemics on political and religious questions. He was an important figure in the intellectual life of his time, though the direct influence of his writings is considered by Professor Brockunier to have been slight: "Earliest of the fathers of American democracy, he owes his enduring fame to his humanity and breadth of view, his untiring devotion to the cause of democracy and free opportunity, and his long record of opposition to the privileged and self-seeking"]
First, that the blood of so many hundred thousand souls of Protestants and Papists, spilt in the wars of present and former ages, for their respective consciences, is not required nor accepted by Jesus Christ the Prince of Peace.
Secondly, pregnant scriptures and arguments are throughout the work proposed against the doctrine of persecution for cause of conscience.
Thirdly, satisfactory answers are given to scriptures, and objections produced by Mr. Calvin, Beza, Mr. Cotton, and the ministers of the New English churches and others former and later, tending to prove the doctrine of persecution for cause of conscience.
Fourthly, the doctrine of persecution for cause of conscience is proved guilty of all the blood of the souls crying for vengeance under the altar.
Fifthly, all civil states with their officers of justice in their respective constitutions and administrations are proved essentially civil, and therefore not judges, governors, or defenders of the spiritual or Christian state and worship.
Sixthly, it is the will and command of God that (since the coming of his Son the Lord Jesus) a permission of the most paganish, Jewish, Turkish, or antichristian consciences and worships, be granted to all men in all nations and countries; and they are only to be fought against with that sword which is only (in soul matters) able to conquer, to wit, the sword of God's Spirit, the Word of God.
Seventhly, the state of the Land of Israel, the kings and people thereof in peace and war, is proved figurative and ceremonial, and no pattern nor president for any kingdom or civil state in the world to follow.
Eighthly, God requireth not a uniformity of religion to be enacted and enforced in any civil state; which enforced uniformity (sooner or later) is the greatest occasion of civil war, ravishing of conscience, persecution of Christ Jesus in his servants, and of the hypocrisy and destruction of millions of souls.
Ninthly, in holding an enforced uniformity of religion in a civil state, we must necessarily disclaim our desires and hopes of the Jew's conversion to Christ.
Tenthly, an enforced uniformity of religion throughout a nation or civil state, confounds the civil and religious, denies the principles of Christianity and civility, and that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
Eleventhly, the permission of other consciences and worships than a state professeth only can (according to God) procure a firm and lasting peace (good assurance being taken according to the wisdom of the civil state for uniformity of civil obedience from all forts).
Twelfthly, lastly, true civility and Christianity may both flourish in a state or kingdom, notwithstanding the permission of divers and contrary consciences, either of Jew or Gentile....
TRUTH. I acknowledge that to molest any person, Jew or Gentile, for either professing doctrine, or practicing worship merely religious or spiritual, it is to persecute him, and such a person (whatever his doctrine or practice be, true or false) suffereth persecution for conscience.
But withal I desire it may be well observed that this distinction is not full and complete: for beside this that a man may be persecuted because he holds or practices what he believes in conscience to be a truth (as Daniel did, for which he was cast into the lions' den, Dan. 6), and many thousands of Christians, because they durst not cease to preach and practice what they believed was by God commanded, as the Apostles answered (Acts 4 & 5), I say besides this a man may also be persecuted, because he dares not be constrained to yield obedience to such doctrines and worships as are by men invented and appointed....
Dear TRUTH, I have two sad complaints:
First, the most sober of the witnesses, that dare to plead thy cause, how are they charged to be mine enemies, contentious, turbulent, seditious?
Secondly, shine enemies, though they speak and rail against thee, though they outrageously pursue, imprison, banish, kill thy faithful witnesses, yet how is all vermilion'd o'er for justice against the heretics? Yea, if they kindle coals, and blow the flames of devouring wars, that leave neither spiritual nor civil state, but burn up branch and root, yet how do all pretend an holy war? He that kills, and he that's killed, they both cry out: "It is for God, and for their conscience."
'Tis true, nor one nor other seldom dare to plead the mighty Prince Christ Jesus for their author, yet (both Protestant and Papist) pretend they have spoke with Moses and the Prophets who all, say they (before Christ came), allowed such holy persecutions, holy wars against the enemies of holy church.
TRUTH. Dear PEACE (to ease thy first complaint), 'tis true, thy dearest sons, most like their mother, peacekeeping, peacemaking sons of God, have borne and still must bear the blurs of troublers of Israel, and turners of the world upside down. And 'tis true again, what Solomon once spake: "The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water, therefore (saith he) leave off contention before it be meddled with. This caveat should keep the banks and sluices firm and strong, that strife, like a breach of waters, break not in upon the sons of men."
Yet strife must be distinguished: It is necessary or unnecessary, godly or Ungodly, Christian or unchristian, etc.
It is unnecessary, unlawful, dishonorable, ungodly, unchristian, in most cases in the world, for there is a possibility of keeping sweet peace in most cases, and, if it be possible, it is the express command of God that peace be kept (Rom. 13).
Again, it is necessary, honorable, godly, etc., with civil and earthly weapons to defend the innocent and to rescue the oppressed from the violent paws and jaws of oppressing persecuting Nimrods 2 (Psal. 73; Job 29).
It is as necessary, yea more honorable, godly, and Christian, to fight the fight of faith, with religious and spiritual artillery, and to contend earnestly for the faith of Jesus, once delivered to the saints against all opposers, and the gates of earth and hell, men or devils, yea against Paul himself, or an angel from heaven, if he bring any other faith or doctrine....
PEACE. I add that a civil sword (as woeful experience in all ages has proved) is so far from bringing or helping forward an opposite in religion to repentance that magistrates sin grievously against the work of God and blood of souls by such proceedings. Because as (commonly) the sufferings of false and antichristian teachers harden their followers, who being blind, by this means are occasioned to tumble into the ditch of hell after their blind leaders, with more inflamed zeal of lying confidence. So, secondly, violence and a sword of steel begets such an impression in the sufferers that certainly they conclude (as indeed that religion cannot be true which needs such instruments of violence to uphold it so) that persecutors are far from soft and gentle commiseration of the blindness of others....
For (to keep to the similitude which the Spirit useth, for instance) to batter down a stronghold, high wall, fort, tower, or castle, men bring not a first and second admonition, and after obstinacy, excommunication, which are spiritual weapons concerning them that be in the church: nor exhortation to repent and be baptized, to believe in the Lord Jesus, etc., which are proper weapons to them that be without, etc. But to take a stronghold, men bring cannons, culverins, saker, bullets, powder, muskets, swords, pikes, etc., and these to this end are weapons effectual and proportionable.
On the other side, to batter down idolatry, false worship, heresy, schism, blindness, hardness, out of the soul and spirit, it is vain, improper, and unsuitable to bring those weapons which are used by persecutors, stocks, whips, prisons, swords, gibbets, stakes, etc. (where these seem to prevail with some cities or kingdoms, a stronger force sets up again, what a weaker pull'd down), but against these spiritual strongholds in the souls of men, spiritual artillery and weapons are proper, which are mighty through God to subdue and bring under the very thought to obedience, or else to bind fast the soul with chains of darkness, and lock it up in the prison of unbelief and hardness to eternity....
PEACE. I pray descend now to the second evil which you observe in the answerer's position, viz., that it would be evil to tolerate notorious evildoers, seducing teachers, etc.
TRUTH. I say the evil is that he most improperly and confusedly joins and couples seducing teachers with scandalous livers.
PEACE. But is it not true that the world is full of seducing teachers, and is it not true that seducing teachers are notorious evildoers?
TRUTH. I answer, far be it from me to deny either, and yet in two things I shall discover the great evil of this joining and coupling seducing teachers, and scandalous livers as one adequate or proper object of the magistrate's care and work to suppress and punish.
First, it is not an homogeneal (as we speak) but an hetergeneal 3 commixture or joining together of things most different in kinds and natures, as if they were both of one consideration....
TRUTH. I answer, in granting with Brentius 4 that man hath not power to make laws to bind conscience, he overthrows such his tenent and practice as restrain men from their worship, according to their conscience and belief, and constrain them to such worships (though it be out of a pretense that they are convinced) which their own souls tell them they have no satisfaction nor faith in.
Secondly, whereas he affirms that men may make laws to see the laws of God observed.
I answer, God needeth not the help of a material sword of steel to assist the sword of the Spirit in the affairs of conscience, to those men, those magistrates, yea that commonwealth which makes such magistrates, must needs have power and authority from Christ Jesus to fit judge and to determine in all the great controversies concerning doctrine, discipline, government, etc.
And then I ask whether upon this ground it must not evidently follow that:
Either there is no lawful commonw earth nor civil state of men in the world, which is not qualified with this spiritual discerning (and then also that the very commonweal hath more light concerning the church of Christ than the church itself).
Or, that the commonweal and magistrates thereof must judge and punish as they are persuaded in their own belief and conscience (be their conscience paganish, Turkish, or antichristian) what is this but to confound heaven and earth together, and not only to take away the being of Christianity out of the world, but to take away all civility, and the world out of the world, and to lay all upon heaps of confusion? . ..
PEACE. The fourth head is the proper means of both these powers to attain their ends.
First, the proper means whereby the civil power may and should attain its end are only political, and principally these five.
First, the erecting and establishing what form of civil government may seem in wisdom most meet, according to general rules of the world, and state of the people.
Secondly, the making, publishing, and establishing of wholesome civil laws, not only such as concern civil justice, but also the free passage of true religion; for outward civil peace ariseth and is maintained from them both, from the latter as well as from the former.
Civil peace cannot stand entire, where religion is corrupted (2 Chron. 15. 3. 5. 6; and Judges 8). And yet such laws, though conversant about religion, may still be counted civil laws, as, on the contrary, an oath cloth still remain religious though conversant about civil matters.
Thirdly, election and appointment of civil officers to see execution to those laws.
Fourthly, civil punishments and rewards of transgressors and observers of these laws.
Fifthly, taking up arms against the enemies of civil peace.
Secondly, the means whereby the church may and should attain her ends are only ecclesiastical, which are chiefly five.
First, setting up that form of church government only of which Christ hath given them a pattern in his Word.
Secondly, acknowledging and admitting of no lawgiver in the church but Christ and the publishing of His laws.
Thirdly, electing and ordaining of such officers only, as Christ hath appointed in his Word.
Fourthly, to receive into their fellowship them that are approved and inflicting spiritual censures against them that o end.
Fifthly, prayer and patience in suffering any evil from them that be without, who disturb their peace.
So that magistrates, as magistrates, have no power of setting up the form of church government, electing church officers, punishing with church censures, but to see that the church does her duty herein. And on the other side, the churches as churches, have no power (though as members of the commonweal they may have power) of erecting or altering forms of civil government, electing of civil officers, inflicting civil punishments (no not on persons excommunicate) as by deposing magistrates from their civil authority, or withdrawing the hearts of the people against them, to their laws, no more than to discharge wives, or children, or servants, from due obedience to their husbands, parents, or masters; or by taking up arms against their magistrates, though he persecute them for conscience: for though members of churches who are public officers also of the civil state may suppress by force the violence of usurpers, as Iehoiada did Athaliah, yet this they do not as members of the church but as officers of the civil state.
TRUTH. Here are divers considerable passages which I shall briefly examine, so far as concerns our controversy.
First, whereas they say that the civil power may erect and establish what form of civil government may seem in wisdom most meet, I acknowledge the proposition to be most true, both in itself and also considered with the end of it, that a civil government is an ordinance of God, to conserve the civil peace of people, so far as concerns their bodies and goods, as formerly hath been said.
But from this grant I infer (as before hath been touched) that the sovereign, original, and foundation of civil power lies in the people (whom they must needs mean by the civil power distinct from the government set up). And, if so, that a people may erect and establish what form of government seems to them most meet for their civil condition; it is evident that such governments as are by them erected and established have no more power, nor for no longer time, than the civil power or people consenting and agreeing shall betrust them with. This is clear not only in reason but in the experience of all commonweals, where the people are not deprived of their natural freedom by the power of tyrants.
And, if so, that the magistrates receive their power of governing the church from the people, undeniably it follows that a people, as a people, naturally consider (of what nature or nation soever in Europe, Asia, Africa, or America), have fundamentally and originally, as men, a power to govern the church, to see her do her duty, to correct her, to redress, reform, establish, etc. And if this be not to pull God and Christ and Spirit out of heaven, and subject them unto natural, sinful, inconstant men, and so consequently to Satan himself, by whom all peoples naturally are guided, let heaven and earth judge....
PEACE. Some will here ask: What may the magistrate then lawfully do with his civil horn or power in matters of religion?
TRUTH. His horn not being the horn of that unicorn or rhinoceros, the power of the Lord Jesus in spiritual cases, his sword not the two-edged sword of the spirit, the word of God (hanging not about the loins or side, but at the lips. and proceeding out of the mouth of his ministers) but of an humane and civil nature and constitution, it must consequently be of a humane and civil operation, for who knows not that operation follows constitution; And therefore I shall end this passage with this consideration:
The civil magistrate either respecteth that religion and worship which his conscience is persuaded is true, and upon which he ventures his soul; or else that and those which he is persuaded are false.
Concerning the first, if that which the magistrate believeth to be true, be true, I say he owes a threefold duty unto it:
First, approbation and countenance, a reverent esteem and honorable testimony, according to Isa. 49, and Revel. 21, with a tender respect of truth, and the professors of it.
Secondly, personal submission of his own soul to the power of the Lord Jesus in that spiritual government and kingdom, according to Matt. 18 and 1 Cor. 5.
Thirdly, protection of such true professors of Christ, whether apart, or met together, as also of their estates from violence and injury, according to Rom. 13.
Now, secondly, if it be a false religion (unto which the civil magistrate dare not adjoin, yet) he owes:
First, permission (for approbation he owes not what is evil) and this according to Matthew 13. 30 for public peace and quiet's sake.
Secondly, he owes protection to the persons of his subjects (though of a false worship), that no injury be offered either to the persons or goods of any....
...The God of Peace, the God of Truth will shortly seal this truth, and confirm this witness, and make it evident to the whole world, that the doctrine of persecution for cause of conscience, is most evidently and lamentably contrary to the doctrine of Christ Jesus the Prince of Peace. Amen.
1. Roger Williams, The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution ... ("Publications of the Narragansett Club" [Providence, R.I.], Vol. III [1867]), pp. 3-4, 63, 58-59, 138-39, 148, 170-71, 201, 247-50, 372-73, 424-25.
2. See Gen. 10:8-9
3. Old forms for "homogeneous" and "heterogeneous."
4. Johann Brenz (1499-1570), German Lutheran theologian.
Text Version Liberty Library Home Rendered into HTML by Jon Roland of the Constitution Society"Roger Williams, Founder of Rhode Island, Arrived in Boston February 5, 1631 Williams founded the colony of Rhode Island based upon principles of complete religious toleration, separation of church and state, and political democracy (values that the U.S. would later be founded upon)." 1 "After forming the first Baptist church in America, Williams left it to seek spirituality in different ways. He stopped preaching to his friends, the Indians, when he realized that their form of worship also fell under his principle of religious freedom. He declared, "'forced worship stinks in God's nostrils.'" 1Related Links1 - I highly recommend this excellent website as a great resource for Mitt Romney posts, articles, news, blogs, links, polls, and more.

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Sunday, November 23, 2008

New Gallup Poll: Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney Top Republican Picks In 2012 Presidential Election

According to a new Gallup Poll, Republicans view Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee, in that order, as the top GOP nominees for the Republican party's presidential nomination in 2012.

"The Nov. 5-16 survey asked a nationally representative sample of Gallup panelists who identify themselves as Republicans or are political independents but 'lean' to the Republican Party to say whether they 'would or would not like to see' each of 10 Republicans 'run for president in 2012.'"

"Palin, Romney, and Huckabee -- all of whom raised their national profiles during the 2008 campaign -- top the list. Romney and Huckabee unsuccessfully sought the presidential nomination versus John McCain, and McCain tapped Palin as his vice-presidential running mate."

Sarah Palin 67%
Mitt Romney 62%
Mike Huckabee 61%


Below The, GOP Voters Starting To Look At 2012 Field
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Saturday, November 22, 2008

Mitt Romney In 2012? Maybe a Mormon Will Be U.S.President Afterall!

Mitt Romney, the candidate I supported and blogged about so often last year, is currently on the National Review's annual cruise with 700 other conservative activists. According to an article on, Mitt Romney's popularity is high, and the Republican party is showing interest in him as a presidential nominee for 2012.

"But it isn't just any cruise and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney isn't just any Republican. Since the economy began its historic downturn six weeks ago, Romney's stock in his party appears to have skyrocketed." 1

"But even as Romney publicly declares he has no intentions to run again, several former aides said they believe he will, and this week's get-together with leading conservatives is only the latest sign the man who spent more than $50 million of his own money to vie for the party's nomination last year is itching to do it again." 1

Way to go, Mitt! I still believe you would have been the best U.S. President in the 2008 election, and maybe there is still a chance for this to happen in 2012.

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Friday, November 21, 2008

24 Hero Jack Bauer on "Redemption" soon: Will Jack Redeem Us All From Boring TV Shows?

The character named Jack Bauer, of the immensely popular 24 series (heroically acted by Kiefer Sutherland), will soon return to television after a long and anticipated wait. There will be a special 2 hour event called Redemption on Sunday, November 23 8/7 PM c. The 7th Season of 24, however, will not begin until January 11th. (I hope I can wait that long!) The 4 hour event will be on Sunday, January 11th for 2 hours, and Monday, January 12th for 2 hours. Seriously, this has got to be one of the greatest television series of all time. I absolute love 24!

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Citizens of Rancho Cucamonga, CA Now Free To Imagine Religion, Imagine No Religion Billboard Removed

Yesterday I wrote about the Imagine No Religion billboard put up in Rancho Cucamonga, California by the atheist, secular humanist Freedom From Religion Foundation (the co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation is atheist Dan Barker). Guess what? The Imagine No Religion billboard been removed.

"Sign company General Outdoor removed the sign by the Freedom From Religion Foundation on Thursday after it received a request by Rancho Cucamonga to do so. According to Redevelopment Director Linda Daniels, City Hall had received 90 calls of complaint since Wednesday. "'We contacted the sign company and asked if there was a way to get it removed,'" Daniels said. 1

"The foundation's co-president, Annie Laurie Gaylor, said the billboard is meant to encourage a debate on religion by using the John Lennon-inspired message. Gaylor was shocked over the city's role in the billboard's demise. "'The city has no business suggesting our billboard be censored," Gaylor said. "They're not allowed to interfere over religious controversy.'" 1

It is good to see the good citizens of Rancho Cucamonga, California standing up for their rights to not be bombarded with atheistic billboards put up in their town without their consent. Quoting the Freedom From Religion Foundations's co-president Annie Laurie Gaylor (see quote above), "They're not allowed to interfere over religious controversy." Wow! She states that non-atheists are not allowed to interfere over religious controversy, however the conservative truth is this: atheists are not only allowed to interfere, but to also practice mind control over an entire town! Now there's a double standard for you!

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008

American Humanist Association Answers Metro Bus Commuters' Questions About Anti-God Posters

The American Humanist Association recently placed anti-God posters on Metro buses. The following link contains their ridiculous answers to commuters' questions.

I have noticed that this sort of event always happens just before major Christian holidays. You see, Secular Humanists really do have a religion, and it's name is Atheism. Atheism's adherents are very interested in converting as many people as they can (or should I say brainwashing?) to their way of thinking.

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The following questions have been asked in response to the humanist Metro bus posters: Why not believe in a god? Without a god, why be good at all? Isn’t Christmas really about Jesus?

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